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TV Review: Cutting Edge: Rich Kid, Poor Kid, Channel 4, Thursday 13 November, 9pm

By ShinyMedia on November 14th, 2008 26 comments

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One of the things that weirded me out when I first moved down to London 14 years ago was how one part of a road could be full of what you’d describe as normal houses and by the end of it the houses would morph into a council estate. I quite liked this aspect of London living, because there seemed to be no divide – both middle class and poorer poeple lived side-by-side. Different cultures seeped into each other, which was so different to the village life I was used to. This aspect of London life was explored to the max in Rich Kid, Poor Kid on Channel 4 tonight to spectacular effect. It was a jaw-dropping, mega interesting programme, very voyeuristic but a must-watch.


Teenager Alice lived at the posh end of a south London street, in a big, six-bedroom house and she made some pretty big pronouncements about what (or who) she thought was cool and what/who was not.

Alice was prone to leafing through weekend newspaper supplements, shrieking with delight at the Rich Lists. She also threw a hissy fit when she was asked to go into a regular supermarket on the high street because she didn’t like the look of it.

Now, Alice had recently been mugged and was obviously fronting up and quite angry about things. She also said a few more outrageous things, but as the show went on I was honestly thinking that she was obviously a product of her environment and was someone who had a lot to learn about life and people.

Natalie, meanwhile, lived on the same street but on a council estate. Her mother didn’t work and neither did she. In fact Natalie had taken control of her family, including the welfare of her beautiful younger brother Gabrielle. Gabrielle slept on the floor in the living room, while Natalie’s room contained pretty much a mattress and some rudimentary items of furniture.

Natalie, even at her age, had become a hardened young woman, exposed to life’s harsh realities. Her mum was depressed and locked up in a rut and, frankly, wasn’t much use to anyone. Natalie was very defensive and angry about her environment, but it was clear she had so much potential. She had a beautiful smile, was really bright. Because of circumstance, she was having to raise not only her little brother but also keep her mum afloat too.

As the film switched between Alice’s sheltered views and Natalie’s struggles, the moment when the two would finally meet edged ever closer. When Natalie was presented with a photograph of Alice, she laughed and said that she guessed she would look like that (too much foundation). Alice, on the other hand, wasn’t looking forward to things quite so much.

And then the moment came. I was totally caught up in the moment and was on the edge-of-my-seat, ready for fireworks. But they didn’t come. Alice said some insensitive things without thinking, Natalie ripped the mick out of her. Stripped away of all their preconceptions, they were just two teenagers laughing and joking about make-up and boys and everything else. It was a very touching moment.

When Alice went back home, her mother was ambivalent (at best) about the whole thing, and when Natalie came to visit she could hardly bring herself to look at her. Natalie, for her part, loved looking around the posh house, and she even sat at the piano and played very nicely. Should have seen Alice’s mum’s face.

Alice, on her return visit to Natalie gaff, walked through the council estate and was clearly shellshocked at the conditions in which Natalie lived in.

To be fair, at the end of the programme, Alice recanted her earlier, extreme statements. And let’s face it, she’s a teenage girl, learning about life and people as she’s going along. She was big enough and bright enough to accept she was wrong. I don’t think she deserves any abuse – she’s just a normal, posh teenage girl. By the end of the programme I actually quite admired her and the way she was willing to be proved wrong. I didn’t like her much, but admired her nonetheless.

While Natalie had seen it all and done it all, this programme was all about Alice’s journey, and by the end of it all she was mortified at some of the comments she had made earlier.

It was terrific, culture-clash television, and was very successful exposing what I believe has happened to us as a society. Natalie (who was just brilliant pretty much throughout) was bang-on when she said that wherever we live or whatever our economic circumstance, we all live in bubbles. We all live in fear of each other. When we’re scared we get defensive. When we get defensive we don’t trust each other. When we don’t trust each other we don’t give someone a chance.

This programme did a very good job in highlighting those divisions.

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  • Rhiannon

    I was looking foreward to watching this documentry as i am 18 years old and studying a play called Mrs Warren’s Proffession. It was written by Bernard Shaw who was a controversial playwrite in around 1890. All of his plays were revolved around the injustice of the class system and banned from bieng shown due to censorship.
    I was pleased to see something like this bieng brought to everyones attention and thought it showed how much time has changed.
    However, when we were first introduced to Alice and Natalie I was so shocked at Alice’s behaviour and attitude towards society. She made me realise that absolutley nothing has changed for the better and that selfish ignorance is still a major issue within the upper class.
    I can’t understand how someone with such a fortunate education, could know so little on a subject she appeared to have very strong views on.
    I dont claim to be right and i dont claim to know everything on the subject but i was appauled when she said something along the lines of:
    ‘they can’t afford these houses and we can… its as simple as that!’.
    How on earth can someone who raves on about thier expensive private school education state that such a massive political issue is ‘as simple as that’?
    I don’t care how much money I have when I am older… my children will go to a state school and be brought up with kids from all walks of life as i believe that people skills and reality are just as (if not more) important than maths, english and science.
    Natalie had so little and yet it was obvious that within herself she had so much more. Her family appeared closer and she was so posotive about life despite all she had been through. She spoke about how she doesn’t care what people think of her as long as they don’t judge her mum, in return you could see how much her mum loved her when she spoke about lending that £100 for Natalie’s birthday.
    All you saw of Alice’s family was bratty strops and parranoid delusions of ‘council house people’. Not to mention the way her parents were ‘Mummy and Daddy’. How old are you love?
    I hope that Alice is ashamed of herself when she see’s how she was at the beginning of the show and i believe everyone can change. Her realisation at the end appeared sincere and i hope she has learned a valuable lesson.
    Natalie obviously has the ability to make something of her life and i sincerley hope she does… her brother has a wonderful sister and a great family unity. I wish them all luck!

  • chavette Or not chavette?

    wow! What a huge divide in todays sociaty, i am shocked at how closed minded the upper class can be yet middle class and ‘poor’ people are so open minded and willing to make the effort. Last nights show definatly shown me that it wasn’t alice’s fault but her parents were the one’s feeding her these images of all walks of life lower than themselves!. Appaling to think adults are teaching their children such pig ignorance in todays sociaty. Im happy alice has now seen different in the people less fortunate than herself and i just hope her parents see the light and come out of their bubble. Natalie was a trooper and no matter what place she lived in or the circumstances her family have ended up in has shown to be so grown up and accepting towards all walks of life…and has respect for her mum, countless of what mistakes she has made in her life.

  • Alice

    Ooer. I watched kinda from the middle of the whole thing. Alice sounds absoutley horrible. Natalie has struggled through life, which has made her who she is but is total opposite to alice. Im called alice LOL. but im not mean, and im not rich either. I love these kind of tv shows about other people lives. It makes you think…

  • kieron

    hey can ur lil bro talkl yet i loved the documentory shows how lucky some peeps are.

  • http://myspace.com/prediction14 Tarrin / mel

    Watching rich kid poor kid yesterday night .I felt that half the things that alice said was aimed at certain people and was not fair i think that she gave the message out to people that she was a very stubborn child with alot of narrow minded thoughts against people . As for her mother i dont think she showed much interest towards natalie and what she had to say . I think the family deserve to go through an experience of what it is like to suffer and not get everything you want . I think they was rude ,Unfair and totally out of order

    As for Natalie and her family i feel that she knew that she has to work for what she wants in life . She spoke alot of sense and she spoke very fairly about alice . Natalie wants to make the most of her brothers child hood and only spoke what she knew was right and knew what needed to be said . To be honest i think if anybody should live the high life it should be natalie and her family because they didnt judge anyone or any thing and deserves to make the most of her and her familys life and achieve all she wants in life . She deserves the best =]

  • http://Clare clare pringle

    Alice’s parents have a lot to answer for, especially her Mother who seemed to gloat over her (not exactly mega rich) lifestyle in front of Natalie, making her feel even more superior. My guess is Alice attends a school where there are kids who are much more affluent than her middle class family so both her and her Mother take the opportunity to gloat whenever they can. sickening and rude !!
    Natalie was a trooper !! good luck to her and her family.

  • Miss N Ali

    I AM A 30 YEAR OLD BLACK GIRL LIVING IN Liverpool, my job is cleaning for a rich, spoiled white girl who lives only a mile down the road in a big detached house. This programme reminded me of the class divide. My boss is the same age as me and just like Alice in her superior attitude.

  • Louise

    Alice was a poor example of a privately eduacted child. She was totally ignorant and immature and gave a completely false impression that all privately eduacated children are like that.
    I can testify that they are not all like that as most families teach their children how lucky they are and to treat everyone the same unfortunately Alices mum is ignorant and no idea of the real world and id not living in the real world!! The frightening fact is that Alices mum is a primary school teacher who should know better and you would hope would bring up her children to not be narrow minded ignorant brats like Alice!!

  • Naomi

    I watched this programme in total disbelief that their are young people such as Alice, living in London especially, still have such a narrow minded, disillusional and pig ignorant attitude towards people of a different race, class and background – I am normally quite open minded to peoples different ways of thinking but struggled to get where she was coming from.

    Firstly, I think most of it has rubbed off from her parents – when Natalie came to the house Alice’s parents didn’t pay her any mind and you could see the fear in her mums face, she wasn’t comfortable with Natalie being there one little bit…

    Secondly, I couldn’t fathom out how Alice seemed to be so comfortable saying the things she said throughout the programme – she really did mean it – and I think that kind of talk/discussions probably takes place at home, amongst her social circles and during school all the time, absolutely disgraceful!

    In a nutshell – I couldn’t stand her and I don’t think for one minute she’s changed her colours – her parents wouldn’t allow it for a start.

    As for Natalie, what a fantastic spirit she has, she was her family’s backbone. I just think it’s a shame that she’s been dealt such a bad hand in life – but I take my hat off to her for her strength, courage and determiniation to make it better.

    I must say though, I don’t understand why she wasn’t getting any support with her mum and Brother from the Social Services – surely the education system should’ve know that Gabby hadn’t been to school for over a year and that Natalie’s mum was suffering from severe depression – the family needed help and where was the support that they duely deserved. Poor Gabby looked like he needed a good week of pure sleep – the kid was 5 years old with bags under his eyes. I couldn’t believe that the family had been left to live under those circumstances and in that environment. It shouldn’t be left to Natalie, a smart and articulate 17 year old, to have such a burden on her shoulders – she should be allowed to have a childhood and be a teenager.

    I think it showed a lack of committement and awareness from the Government and I felt ashamed as a British citizen that people are still living in such conditions. We contribute a good proportion of our salaries in order to pay for the support that is required to improve the lives of people who are not as fortunate as others – Natalie’s family weren’t benefiting from this at all.

    All the best to Natalie, Gabriel and their mum and hope that Natalie will have the drive to continue as she has started…an absolute gem!

    All in all it was a good programme, difficult to watch at times but an eye opener to what is actually going on in our city.

  • Julia

    Alice – upper class – don’t make me laugh – her mother was a primary school teacher (I pity the poor children she teaches). Important thing that came out of last nights programme was the importance of not pre-judging people and that includes not pre-judging people who are privately educated – not all privately educated people are like Alice. Alice and her dreadful mother should be throughly ashamed of themselves!

  • Jacqui

    I have been told by friends that was a must watch programme but I missed it, will it be repeated and when?

  • Paul Hirons

    Thanks for your comment Jacqui. Channel 4 has a web page on the programme: http://www.channel4.com/culture/microsites/C/cutting_edge/index.html

    Also, the channel runs a free, online catch-up service.

    http://www.channel4.com

  • justin havens

    I thought the programme was very touching about the preconceptions of people, and Natalie was certainly the rock of her family. Alice and her family have obviously come in for a rough ride here. One thing though – I am sure when Alice visited Natalie, that I saw a shiny laptop? What on earth was going on there – a 5 year old sleeping in muck on the floor, whilst the benefit money gets spent on things like a laptop? Perhaps I was wrong? A hard life for Natalie though.

  • Lisa

    I really hope someone from social services sees this programme and tries to help Natalie’s family. Especially her beautiful little brother, as he said he wanted to go to school. I can see how once a family comes from poverty that is really hard for someone to break the cycle, I really hope Natalie manages to achieve this as she has a really good attitude.

  • John Makonza

    I just wan`t to thank the producer of this educational program. I have a lot of respect for Natalie, mainly for her personality towards her family and also towards people in general. As for Alice it`s a shame that she has been raised by her parents to be what she came across as at the beginning of the program but fair-play to her for accepting that she was ignorant.

  • Debra Williams

    Like other viewers I was shocked at the living conditions that Natalie and her family have to endure, where are social services?? But Natalie she is the person she is because of it and lifes circumstances. She adapts her personality when needs be. She took offence to some of the comments by the tv camera man and her anger spilled out. But when she visited Alice’s house an altogether well mannered decent young woman appeared – I was so impressed with her.

    Alice – all I can say is when she watches the programme in a few years time she will hide with embarrassment – privileged upbringing,if that is privileged, god help us all.

  • Emma

    Natalie – poor and a young carer: and strong, sensitive, loyal, kind, generous, perceptive, dignified and brilliant.
    Alice & her mother – richer, but not that rich, and couldn’t care for anyone: and vile, insecure, thoroughly mean, disrespectful and riddled with paranoia.
    How much more ‘wealthy’ Natalie is! – despite a difficult life, she’ll have all the love, loyalty and respect from real, genuine people that Alice and her mother have clearly never received, and couldn’t hope to ever receive, with that attitude. Who would actually want the miserable existence of Alice and her mother? All that status anxiety should make them scream and scream until they are sick!
    GO NATALIE – YOU ARE BRILLIANT.

  • susie

    Posted 14-11-08 17:39 Hide Post
    I watched this programme and wonder why Social Services did not appear to have any involvement with Natalie’s family. This family, and especially the children are crying out for support and practical help. It makes you wonder what Social Services are spending their budgets on! This child, Natalie, is struggling to survive and I can’t see how she can ever hope to break the pattern of hopelessness and depression without help. I have contacted the company that made the film,”Up Close Films” and offered to make a contribution, either in practical or financial terms to try and help this family. I will post details when they get back to me on Monday.

  • Bev

    Ithink the laptop was alices as it had ski holiday pics on it Good Luck in the future Natalie

  • Will Howells

    I’m not ashamed to say I had tears in my eyes watching Natalie’s family; Gabriel is so innocent, Natalie has so much potential and her mother clearly cares for both her children.

    The sad thing is that this is not uncommon and nor is the attitude of Alice and her family. Whilst Alice came across as someone whose head needed a wobble she was clearly a product of her background; a mother who takes no interest in her and a Bentley in the drive.

    A truly moving piece and a very important signal that Labour has failed to do what it was founded for, and that is close the gap between rich and poor. This is inevitable when we have a society based on profit and consumerism and one where farmers are paid to not produce crops.

    I’m state educated and proud, my school was one of the worst performing (academically) in my area and I was one of the wealthier students there (though hardly wealthy myself) but I wouldn’t have had it any other way. I got good grades at school and am now at University, but it was the people I mixed with that got me where I am.

    I truly hope that Natalie has a chance to realise her potential and that Gabriel gets the education he deserves. I also hope Alice changes her attitude, and perhaps those of her peers at her school.

  • DG

    I think the challenging part of the programme, is how much people would agree with some of Alices beliefs, but never admit to it,

    Like when you see a ‘chav’ in the street how many people would avoid them, or avoid walking through a council estate,

    Not that i’m defending all her statements such as all state school kids can go and die, but rather than be quick to vilify, a lot of people think the same things but might not say them so crassly

  • Sasha

    In my opinion if Alice’s mother hates Clapham, maybe she should consider moving to America’s deep South…..I am certain she will find some like mind people there.

    Apologies to those in the deep South who do not share the opinions of an ignorant disgrace of a human, I am completely aware most people are totally disgusted by her attitudes.

  • Jill

    I watched the programme with my 17 year old daughter and two of her friends, we all found Alice hard to watch, but aware that we know many like her, and agree with most of the comments posted here, that she is a product of her family and peers, who clearly have a lot to answer for. In fact the car journey through the no-go streets reminded me of a Catherine Tate sketch and I was shocked that these characters really do exist, although Catherine’s ability to portray reality is her real strength. We had nothing but admiration for Natalie, we hated to see the poverty that her family lived in, but admired their unity and respect their efforts to stay together, but concerned that if Social Services had been involved, they may have been split up but narrow minded do-gooders like Alice’s mother, who really did come across as the villain of the piece. A must watch programme and one that schools should use in their citizens classes to show what ignorance can produce. We wish Natalie and her family all the success in the world and hope Alice stays in touch with Natalie as clearly Alice needs to learn some true values.

  • Sheila

    It would be interesting to know when the programme was made and have an update and what has happened to Natalie and her family. Have Social Services become involved and how is her brother getting on at school. I’m planning on using the programme as the stimulus material for Year 10 Media coursework and hope it will raise some stimulating discussion. If we are ever to get along in society is so vitally important that we are tolerant of each other, whatever our situation. Bigotry and ignorance produce breeding grounds for mistrust and suspicion which quickly grow into hatred.

    I do agree that Alice is a produce of her environment, just as Natalie is. But how much more Natalie had learned about life, herself and others. I do hope that someone out there has seen the huge potential in Natalie and has offered her a job which will involve some training so that she can fulfil her potential and break the cycle she’s in.

  • http://shinymedia.headshift.com/cgi-bin/mt4/mt-tb.cgi/113164 Clare

    I think Alice’s parents have been stitched up and it was completely wrong to compare the attitudes of a 15-year-old to a 17-year-old. I am not suggesting that Natalie isn’t a kind, caring person, she may well be…but she is also old enough to know how to come across that way. The documentary’s director knew very well what he wanted to put across when he made this film: Noble, lovely poor person versus spoilt rich brat.
    ALice’s mother said she used to like the area. We don’t find out what exactly made her change her mind. I should imagine having your teenage daughter mugged and her friend hospitalized might have something to do with it.
    Natalie seems to be able to afford her fag habit. How many packs of fags does it cost to buy a bed? (less than ten!) People who have been recently traumatized (mugged etc) are likely to say things they would not say once they had calmed down…..and it must be hard when both parents work hard to support a lifestyle not to be resentful when your kids are attacked on their doorstep!

  • BeeBee

    I’m not surprised Alice was mugged – when you sashay down the street with your nose in the air, your iPod on display, your bag swinging from your wrist and your hair backcombed to within an inch of it’s life you must prepare for trouble.

    Alice’s family seem to be very insecure in their wealth – almost as if they haven’t had it for that long (nouveau riche) and are scared of losing everything. That’s why they have the big house, the expensive cars and all the other status symbols of wealth that genuine upper middle class people would not dream of displaying.

    It is certainly true that the more wealthy and middle class you are, the less likely you are to display it and Alice’s family are the best example of the bourgoisie “new money” I have ever seen.

    Some other points about the programme:
    Alice had no idea how to use straighteners, which is why great clumps of her hair were broken off a few inches from the root.

    Natalie was full of compliments about Alice’s photo – but was met with disgust when Alice saw hers.

    The way Alice’s vile mother smirked when told that Natalie’s father was shot – clearly not aware that he was actually murdered whilst on a family holiday.

    The way Alice was welcomed whole heartedly into Natalie’s pokey and untidy council flat but was met with repugnance and suspicion when entering Alice’s home. She was even followed around the house! She even tickered out a gentle tune on the piano which must have annoyed Alice’s mother becuase she probably can’t play a note and only bought it to look good in the window from the outside.

    Some of the comments Alice made were obviously copied verbatim from her parents – things like “that’s my money their wasting” (referring to benefit claimants. Sorry Alice, I didn;t realise you were a higher rate taxpayer. It’s your father’s money not yours, and not even your mother’s.

    “Money breeds superiority”. Where would a 15 year old learn that? Her bigoted parents! There’s only a few things they are better at than poor people and they are bigotry, racism, narrow mindedness, paranoia, the list goes on………




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