If I were to say that my passing reference to homeopathy in last week's review was a result of my psychic powers and I really had no knowledge that Richard Dawkins was going to spend much of tonight's programme debunking this particular flavour of alternative medicine, you probably wouldn't believe me. So I won't (even though the latter half is, at least, true). Perhaps that's just the kind of coincidence Dawkins is so disenchanted with, along with modern man's propensity to take such coincidences and build them into a world view totally at odds with what he might call "scientific reality."
In this second and final instalment of Enemies of Reason, subtitled the Irrational Health Service (full marks for a punny title), Dawkins turns his spotlight on not only homeopathy but every other branch of alternative medicine he can lay his hands on. His premise, you won't be surprised to learn, is that none of them are worth the candle (or the crystal, etc) when compared to modern medicine.
Science-based medicine, says Dawkins, has increased life expectancy dramatically to the point where we can allow ourselves the luxury of faddish medicine as an alternative.
He bemoans the media for whipping up hysteria about such "unscientific" scares as the purported connection between the MMR vaccine and autism first reported in 1998, but he does at least recognise the reluctance of parents to subject their children to the potential risk of vaccination, which is a positive act, rather than leave them at increased risk of infection from being unvaccinated, which he refers to as a "sin of omission."
It is well documented that modern society is increasingly unable to weigh risk factors and make a balanced judgement about relative risks. This is exacerbated by media frenzies talking about the risk of some side effect of treatment "doubling" or "trebling" (which therefore appears to be a massive increase) when in fact this may translate only in the risk increasing from 1 in 10,000 to 2 or 3 in 10,000.
But as in last week's programme, Dawkins sticks slavishly to his principle that science and scientific principle is everything, while failing to recognise that science is only as good as the scientists who practice it. The possible connection between MMR and autism appears after further research to be much less likely than was first suggested, but many people still harbour a suspicion that it is more than coincidence that previously healthy children developed autism after taking the vaccination. We have been told so many times before by scientists and doctors that something is "impossible." It was claimed to be "impossible" that stomach ulcers could be caused by bacteria. What bacteria could possibly live in the acidic conditions of the stomach, scoffed the majority of scientists? Anyone who believed this "fairy story" was branded a fool, a charlatan, or worse.
Thankfully not all scientists were brow-beaten by this approach and eventually Helicobacter pylori was found to live in the stomach and be the cause of stomach ulcers.
And only last week, as I reported in the comments on my previous review, scientists managed to transmit a signal at 2x, 4x and 10x the speed of light; something that all of Einsteinian physics decrees impossible.
Since the story of science is unfolding in this way every day, is it any wonder the majority of the public are sceptical when they're told something is "impossible." Their experience is that it's only impossible until scientists discover why and how it is actually possible, and then their story changes.
Dawkins' reaction to the discussion of homeopathy falls precisely into this realm. After hearing an experienced homeopath's explanation of how it works, Dawkins expostulates incredulously: "that suggests we're dealing with an entirely new force unknown to physics."
Really? His tone of voice suggests that this is totally preposterous, but nothing in the history of science suggests that we have at this point in time discovered the totality of forces in the universe. Why then is this suggestion so incredible? We are only now beginning to have equipment sensitive enough to detect gravity waves. It seems quite likely there are other forces that we are as yet completely unable to detect or even perhaps conceive.
Later Dawkins enlists the aid of "evolutionary psychologists" who, apparently, believe that humans have evolved very sophisticated self-healing mechanisms that may be behind the successes of alternative therapies. So as long as we replace the therapists "mumbo-jumbo" (as Dawkins calls it) with his own preferred version of mumbo-jumbo, he's happy to accept that as an explanation. The therapies work, but not because of any intrinsic worth. Only because we "would have got better anyway."
"I accept," said Dawkins revealingly, "that alternative medicine is peculiarly well positioned to deliver placebos."
What he meant was that most alternative practitioners prefer to spend much longer with their patients than the average 8 minutes it takes an NHS GP to listen to your symptoms and scratch out a presciption for a bottle of pills. And because this slower, more compassionate and humane approach to medicine is preferred by most people, they imagine themselves better as a result.
To which I would say: the end justifies the means. If people are getting better it doesn't matter how you explain it away, and it has to be cheaper than the billions of pounds a year we spend on prescription drugs, many of which are flushed down the toilet.
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The article tells all. The "scientists" take all pains to disprove what they are not able to understand. Instead if they find some time to know why the systems like Homoeopathy work it will be a service to mankind because Homoeopathy is the only system which is least taxing on the natural resources and also on human body. Had it not been effective it would not have survived the test of time and the number of patients switching over to the system would not have grown by leaps and bounds. Believe it or not here in India the Homoeopathic patients include scientists too !!!
Believe it or not here in India the Homoeopathic patients include scientists too !!!
not only the scientists but I've seen no of allopathic doctors started practising homeopathy! In my city I know a top E.N.T. surgeon has a no of homeopathic minded patients in his practice !
I cant believe the author is/other posters are defending homeopathy, which is by far the biggest snake-oil sham ever concocted.
"not all scientists were brow-beaten by this approach and eventually Helicobacter pylori was found to live in the stomach and be the cause of stomach ulcers" - Yes! Take note! SCIENTISTS found it out, not homeopaths, not crystal healers not any of these mumbo jumbo merchants who have failed to produce a cure to a single illness, EVER.
"Scientists managed to transmit a signal at 2x, 4x and 10x the speed of light; something that all of Einsteinian physics decrees impossible" Yes! AGAIN Take note! Again it was SCIENTISTS found it out, not homeopaths, not crystal healers not mumbo jumbo merchants, who have never discovered ANYTHING EVER. (Plus the mechanism of this is still being debated, it is far from established fact, so let's not jump the gun)
The thing is, that scientists are willing to change their world view to incorporate new bacteria, new physics on the basis of new evidence. Whereas these charlatans require that the whole world change to fit their dogma, because reality itself is drastically at odds with their claims. I don't understand why people continue to defend treatments that are PROVEN NOT TO WORK, it's madness.
Interesting to see the comments from India. In the program last night Prof Dawkins tried to draw a comparison between the West's swing to alternatives while in India there is supposed mass take-up of conventional medicine. He and/or the program's researchers clearly did not do their homework. India is the country where homeopathy parallels allopathy in the extent to which it is used and practised and in which the educational and provisional infrastructure matches the conventional. Why? One reason is that homeopathy is economically far less costly than conventional medicine and the poor can at least afford it. There is very little money in homeopathic pharmaceuticals. one reason why the western pharma industry do not like the advances homeopathy and herbal medicines are making. No doubt they are very happy to support Prof.Dawkins' ill-researched and ill-founded attack.
i can get homeopathic remedies out of my tap.
quack quack quack
If there is such a relevant debate for homeopathy why not do some scientific studies and put this bullcrap to rest or embrace it. I studied hypnosis indepth and can tell you, ailments concerning the central nervous system can be greatly improved. Is this just a byproduct of placebo or power of suggestion, lets find out. Never underestimate the power of the mind and never fall prey to snake oil, let scientific discourse be the prevailing wisdom, open minds will be required
'After hearing an experienced homeopath's explanation of how it works, Dawkins expostulates incredulously: "that suggests we're dealing with an entirely new force unknown to physics." Really?'
Yes - of course we would be dealing with an entirely new force unknown to physics.
Homeopaths really like the idea that cutting edge science will show a mechanism by which their magic water will work. But standard scientific rigour applied to testing its claims that it works show that it is nothing but a placebo.
You can't pick and choose the science. First prove that it works, then discover a mechanism by which it works. Homeopathy falls at the first hurdle.
'Why then is this suggestion so incredible?'
Because if you understand physics, maths, chemistry, biology and statistics (i.e. science) it is perfectly obvious that it would be incredible if there were any plausible way that homeopathy could work.
Why would it not be incredible if the known laws and constants from several fields of science were shown to be wrong because of something that has been demonstrated in numerous trials to be nothing more than a placebo?
'And only last week, as I reported in the comments on my previous review, scientists managed to transmit a signal at 2x, 4x and 10x the speed of light; something that all of Einsteinian physics decrees impossible.'
No they didn't:
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/print/482.
'To which I would say: the end justifies the means. If people are getting better it doesn't matter how you explain it away'
So homeopaths saying that magic water will cure AIDS or prevent malaria is ok is it?
http://www.homeopathy-soh.org/for-homeopaths/documents/Aidsflyer.pdf
Ah yes, just a bit of harmless fun when people with serious illnesses are told to take water instead of proven treatments. Never mind combination drug therapy for the AIDS epidemic in Africa, lets dilute some tincture of witchazel so that not a single molecule of it remains and dose up the entire continent with, erm, water.
"I accept," said Dawkins revealingly, "that alternative medicine is peculiarly well positioned to deliver placebos."
What's 'revealing' about this? It's a prefectly obvious and valid statement, sCAM practitioners have all the ingredients needed to effectively give placebos (psedoscientific authority, the time to demonstrate compassion etc). He also said that conventional nmedicine is pretty good at placebo delivery too.
'If there is such a relevant debate for homeopathy why not do some scientific studies and put this bullcrap to rest or embrace it.'
They've already been done:
http://tinyurl.com/yv7hbj
But homeopaths will not accept the evidence and I doubt if they ever will.
Hello Seany and anyone else who sees this.
Please do read the true story from Dr. Peter Fisher of the Royal London Homeopathic Hospital on the famous 110 trials on homepathy in the Lancet 26/8/05.
Homeopathy and The Lancet
by Dr. Peter Fisher
(Scroll down to) The Meta-Analysis
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1375230